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Gerald Pechenuk: LaRouche, Activism, and Trump
Gerald Pechenuk is a long-time supporter of the Lyndon LaRouche movement and activist who has been a candidate in Democratic and Republican primaries, done campaign coordination for over 500 citizen-candidates in a dozen states in the Midwest, and created content for LaRouche-affiliated platforms.
Gerald has also been a key player in California’s MAGA movement since 2022 and is an elected member of the Alameda County Republican Party Central Committee and a delegate to the California GOP State Convention. Learn more at PrometheanAction.com and CaliforniaMAGA.com.
Summary
Seeing Lee Harvey Oswald, surrounded by police, killed on live TV in 1963 caused Gerald and many Americans to doubt the veracity of our government and media. Lyndon LaRouche, when Gerald discovered him, had explanations that made sense.
When 12-years-old Gerald learned about nuclear fusion at 1964 World’s Fair in New York City. During the turmoil of the times, he thought, “Why are we fighting when we could have unlimited energy and this great future?” He decided that he was going to help people stop fighting and discuss what we all want (a good life, a healthy life, a productive life).
Not drafted by the military’s lottery system, lucky Gerald joined the anti-Vietnam War movement, the Democratic-leaning peace movement (inspired by the likes of Eugene McCarthy, Robert F. Kennedy, and George McGovern).
And that’s where he ran into Lyndon LaRouche, who was active at Columbia University and other schools up and down the East Coast. He was revealing the players behind the scenes, like the Ford Foundation and similar institutions that were funding the drugs, the legalization, the so-called hippie lifestyle. Gerald stuck with LaRouche because he had the best verifiable explanations and answers for what was happening. Gerald: “To make the world a better place, to be part of the solution, you have to be part of a movement. You have to take your passion, your ideas, out into the world.”
Author Anton Chaitkin ran for mayor of New York City in the 1970s. LaRouche ran for president. “We raised our own money. We had our own news service. We had our own candidates.” LaRouche was invited into the Democratic Party. He was revealing the real powers behind the scenes (the Council on Foreign Relations, etc.).
In New Hampshire in 1980, Ronald Reagan started using LaRouche’s material, talking about the Trilateral Commission, which was represented by George H. W. Bush, Reagan’s opponent for the Republican nomination. Reagan won and felt he owed LaRouche’s people something because they had supplied with much that helped him overcome the Eastern Liberal Establishment that Bush represented.
LaRouche was invited to give suggestions and proposals to Reagan as he prepared to be sworn in. One of them became SDI, the Strategic Defense Initiative. And LaRouche was given clearance and made the back channel to the Soviets, offering to share the technology with them. That’s what Reagan wanted to do, with the goal of eliminating much of the tension between the United States and the Soviet Union.
When Reagan was in Iceland to meet with Gorbachev of the Soviet Union in 1986, with SDI an issue on the table, the LaRouche office in Virginia was raided by 400 federal agents. Arrests were made and LaRouche was later charged with a crime, which was really, according to Gerald, the fact that LaRouche had gotten a policy approved by the President of the United States (the Strategic Defense Initiative) through completely independent means, no deals with big shots, no coverage by the mainstream media. And that had to be squashed and hard.
Gerald described President Trump’s abhorrence of nuclear war. We recorded this show the day after Israel attacked Iran on Friday, June 13, 2025. Did Trump know about the attack in advance? Or was it timed to scuttle US-Iranian talks scheduled to start on June 15?
Trump is beholden to Israeli/Zionist donors, Gerald concedes. But a Charlie Kirk poll shows that 90% of MAGA does not want the US involved in this Israel’s new war.
In 2016, Bruce preferred Trump to Hillary. During his first 3 years (before Covid), Trump fulfilled about 10% of his amazing rhetoric, which was a miracle compared to the empire-serving presidents we’ve had for decades. And the economy was doing okay.
In 2020, Trump was “a useless wet dishrag” (said Bruce) and got rolled by the powers that inflicted Covid on the world, a crime against humanity, including the vaccines. On Day-Three of Israel’s attack on Iran (and their retaliation) when this was recorded, it seemed that Trump was bending over for Israel and ready to sacrifice life, limb and anything good, much as he failed to protect America during Covid.
Gerald hopes that Trump will choose to counteract the British Empire in its modern form, which is financial as well as military (the globalists, the deep state, it goes by many names), and Gerald reports that many people in the MAGA movement are going to run for office; they are committed to doing something to make the world better for the generations yet unborn. That, Gerald says, is the pursuit of life, liberty, and immortality, to seed good things for people in the future whom we will never meet.
That, he says, is the war we were born into, because we were born in America, which was born from a war by the people against an oligarchy.
Gerald described I. L. Peretz’s short story, “Bontshe Shvayg” (“Bontshe the Silent”), “one of the most widely known, anthologized, and translated [stories] in all of Yiddish literature [about] a man who never speaks up for himself” (Yiddish Book Center), and made this point: If we complain about Trump or complain about anyone, we’re playing the victim. The question we should be asking is what are WE going to do? The answer, according to Gerald, is to become creative. To work together and out-flank our problems, if we can’t solve them directly. To accept responsibility for the conditions on Earth and work to make them better for the generations that will follow. “It’s our job to steer the ship safely to shore.”
Bruce replied, “What you just said should be played for sixth-graders, seventh graders, in a civics class (if we ever have them again) called How to Be an American. That was great.”
On PrometheanAction.com, videos that contrast the anti-human, Malthusian depopulation view with the American System outlook of optimism and a better future are getting around a million views each week. Gerald is excited because “the audience is there now. … The progress of humanity is never-ending and it’s upward. We’ll never run out of resources, unless we run out of minds that can think.”
Also discussed is the book, BEWARE The British East India Company! Toward an Alliance Between the USA, Russia, China, and India to Finally Defeat the British Empire by William F. Wertz Jr. Its description on Amazon says:
“This book presents a comprehensive history of the existential war waged between the Anglo-Dutch imperial system and what became known as the American System of political economy ever since the creation of the predatory British and Dutch East India Companies. On that basis, the book presents a counterintuitive solution to the crisis confronting humanity today, arguing that only a combination of the Four Powers, the USA, Russia, China and India, has the power to finally dismantle the Anglo-Dutch imperial system as it emerged from the British and Dutch East India Companies. The book documents the de facto alliance which has existed since the time of the American Revolution among these Four Powers and proposes the American System of political economy of Alexander Hamilton, Friedrich List, Henry C. Carey, Abraham Lincoln, and Franklin D. Roosevelt as the basis for a community of principle among the sovereign nation-states of the world to be initiated jointly by these Four Powers.”
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.... we were born in America, which was born from a war by the people against an oligarchy....
A nice myth, just as the good Americans vs. the bad British, and the good American System, that developed while in reality, the Rothschilds were taking over the USA through their robber barons.
For a more realistic analysis, see my post The USA: from fake dream to real nightmare.
https://thepredatorsversusthepeople.substack.com/p/the-united-states-of-america-from
For what the Americans did to their Eurasia, including the settinp up of communism and Hitler, see https://thepredatorsversusthepeople.substack.com/p/the-big-picture-of-history-and-how